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How anyone can defend the present education system is beyond me.! I listen to 15 and 16 year olds finkin and fortin, I see cashiers in super- markets who can't add 2+2 if the bloody till breaks down, and as for history and geography, it's a closed book to them. The Grammar schools are the only seats of excellence in this country, and the socialists would love to see them gone, as ignorance is bliss, and bliss suits the socialist agenda. The Matriculation exams taken by 16 year olds in the 1930s,40s and 50s, at Grammar schools, would make the present A levels look like child's play, and despite the propaganda put out by the educationalists, the people who left school at 14 years old, were not illiterate, but probably had a more rounded education than todays children. I left school at 14, in 1944, after four years of constant interruption , and I could read,write , had good basics in maths history and geography, and so did thousands like me. Todays system costs untold billions, and delivers a shoddy product.

Aye Owdun.

owdun wrote:The Grammar schools are the only seats of excellence in this country
Aye Owdun.

Thats bollocks. There are people at my grammar school who havent got a clue. Its all about whether you are coached for the 11+ and if you have contacts.. 6 hours coaching and chances are high that you will get in.

Other grammar schools around me are identical too.

The rest of your post is spot on though.

MM

Not bollocks at all, just study the exam results for the whole country, they are published after each exam session, Grammar schools lead the way every time.


Owdun.

Because of the extra £££ they get. My school gets millions more than others because we are a 'Technology College'. That is complete bollocks - at my old local comp there are better facilites and staff.

Owdun,
about saying it was bollocks.

MM

Minimac, Accepted


Aye Owdun.

As well as the barb test, there is a new numeracy and literacy test. Anyone can get in the Infantry, though.

[quote="wannabe_bootneck"]May be true, but the old ed. system screwed a lot of people over majorly, I nkow this as fact as I have studied this topic fairly recently, inf act, there's so much more to education than face value![/quote]

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You may be right because when I was on active duty, I tried to schedule college classes. It all depended on if the supervisor of your section approved of it. I was only able to take two classes while I was on active and I was very upset. I kept trying to get my supervisors to allow me to go to college while I was active but I was not able to do so.[/b]

rambo wrote:I think if they do this then the army will be cut in half to what its numbers are today. Im not saying there all dumb, im not going to point any out but you know who you are.

I can actually understand why they are doing this and that is because so many soldiers coming into the Army have degrees already. While I was on active duty I was serving with enlisted soldiers with Associate (AS) and Bachelor of Science (BS) degrees. This meant a lot of the enlisted solidiers in charge had to deal with soldiers who was problably qualified to do their job and do it better.

Practical inteligence is own thing but having common sense and being able to think on your feet is something else. Very rare does someone have both. I know people who are dr's yet get confused over the plot of a film !!!! And just give up.

my thoughts on this are that the equipment should be designed to be useable by soldiers not our soldiers changed to use the equipment. And whatever about your academic achievements or lack of I realy dont believe it matters for an infantryman, I believe once you can communicate verbally and can atleast scribble down notes or whatever and can work out simple maths like how many rounds did I fire if I have x amount left etc the rest. Although already mentioned I shall repeat, a degree is one thing a degree in 'Cop on' is another matter all together.the rest in my humble opinion is irrelevent.