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Whitey if you hate America so much why not move to New Zealand or somewhere. I here slavery is still legal in The Sudan! Or you could run for political office and make a change in your community. Or you could just gripe about your home on internet message boards.

To answer your question I am currently a National Guard Soldier, who is actively protecting your right to insult me. You're welcome. I'm sorry you hated your experience in the military. Mine on the other hand has enabled me to provide for myself and my family, given me money to get a college education, not to mention job experience. And all I've had to do answer when called apon. Not a bad deal in my opinion.

USARMY, were you ever deployed overseas?

I expect you may take the question the wrong way, but I'm just curious.

You see US Army this is why I am here. Your aren't protecting me and if you are you can tell your CO to let you go home since I have better means of protection than you or your company. So mellow dramatic. I wasn't insulting you either, just some of the forums in the US that dwell on badges and medals and "Proud to be an American" mantra. Did you know Lee Greenwood dodged the draft? I served, I figure I can say what I want even if it isn't nice or mainstream, I figure even the kids in school can run their man pleasers any way they want since the 1st Amendment gives them that right. Actually if you are defending my rights while activated to enforce the Constitutional infringing Patriot Act, against the Constitution you swore to uphold, how exactly are you protecting me or my rights? You act like you give me my rights that I learned were God given and did you know I served something like 11 years? Look at my profile, the picture should reveal something that looks like a fishing trip.
Lastly you seem to think I hate my country. This is funny since I've never said that. I hate corrupt pull politics, that is hardly hating the country. Run for office, well can I borrow a few million and your vote? Didn't think so.
We are screwed brother, we lost our Constitution and our country to investment bankers, corporations and lobbiest a long time ago as I'm learning more everyday. I'm sure you are a good guy, glad you answered the call, you live up to your contract I see. Its hard seeing the whole picture as a soldier, I didn't when I was. Your perception is constantly clouded, with the commands help of course.
What do you do in the guard? Our Guard here was activated and seem to just pick up trash around the post. Maybe you are 5th Group or something? Doesn't matter, fact is I don't need your protestion, I don't hate my country(Dixie) and I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings.
Leave the country? My people are here, my ancestors like Seth and Easua of the CSA are buried here, no I figure I'll stay, maybe you yankees can leave? Well it was a thought. Do you train at Blanding? I did ome training there once. Poor Army guys wearing helmets to fire a silly M-16, we were shooting 203's wth soft covers. Boy that was funny, the Army is so up tight. Ever been in a unit that let you go full auto with a soft cap? I have, so maybe that would indicate to you that I really don't need your protective services.
Semper Jive

Frank S.

Nope. But I have done some things on CONUS that I'm proud of. Nothing sneaky or anything like that. Just soldiering. However, I will have my combat patch in the coming days. Before you ask think....OPSEC.

Whitey

Your concept of history is interesting. Read the New Testament my friend. You see things are happening that are out of anyones control. The worlds fate was sealed long ago. So have faith, and don't take life so seriously, you're not getting out alive.

Wars have changed and the front lines have changed...the enemy (international terrorism) fights behind closed doors, they hide and they run then they attack and hid and run again and why? because there scared of what US and UK will do. dont forget we owe the americans alot. people might disagree with me but if my historys correct they saved our asses in the second world war. look how they crushed afghanistan and the taliban? America isnt ready to pull out of iraq yet, they will one day but not just yet...

Spannerman wrote:

'Let the West sort it out for them' John, what like we did after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire? Carve it up, a bit for Kuwait, a bit for Saudi, a bit for Turkey, abit for Syria and Jordan and a bit for Iraq like we did in the 1920's, the Kurds and the Turks won't get on, The Sunni's won't get on with the Shia's, a diplomatic Political nightmare for the West to sort out, what a load of bolleaux!

You have misunderstood me. I did not mean let the west sort them out. I am saying that if they do then Iraq wont be safe and stable. I am against that idea.

tom bryars wrote:Wars have changed and the front lines have changed...the enemy (international terrorism) fights behind closed doors, they hide and they run then they attack and hid and run again and why? because there scared of what US and UK will do. dont forget we owe the americans alot. people might disagree with me but if my historys correct they saved our asses in the second world war. look how they crushed afghanistan and the taliban? America isnt ready to pull out of iraq yet, they will one day but not just yet...

Terrorism has always been round. However, 9/11 was the largest attack on America ever, therefore it required military action. I supported that war.

Why did the US interfre in WW2? - because America was attacked (im greatful by the way)
Why did the US remove the Taliban? - because America was attacked
Why did the US invade Iraq? - because America was attacked
Why does the US oppose Castro? - because he removed US interests.
Why did America support Pinochet? - because he provided US interests

My point is that the US only acts when it needs to protect something that it owns, or wants or in retaliation. The US only uses the moral argument to strengthen its resolve.

Why does America get attacked is the question?
Why was America attacked on 9/11-Because our dirty politicians and their insane one sided policies in favor of Izzyland.

WW2 we allowed our obsolete Battle Ships to get sunk by the Japs who we economically competed with and eventually threatened into non-existence.

WW1- We got involved in that when our 1st Communist President Woody Wilson decided to make the world safe for Democracy(Socialism).

We hit Iraq because our governments puppet masters want to feel safe in their promised land and to practice apartide unopposed.

Afgahnistan- yeah I agree we needed to kick some ass, but what led to it in the 1st place?

Bottom line is America is more of a corporation than a country, and corporations do what they have to to make profit. And to have a monopoly.
US Army tell your boyscout commander I said we don't need your services anymore, you can all go home. Like Kid Rock says "I'm an American bad ass." Take your road guard vest and trash bag and go home. We got a deficit you are a drain on the economy.

BTW US NG if you ain't been oversea's serving the Empire what would you know? You think I'm full of it cause draft dodging Dickless Cheney, Awol Pres., Colin "Back Paddling" Powell Gretta Van "Ugly" Zustren and another draft dodger Bill O'Riely tell you their version of things? Ever see an Izzy soldier drop a kid for chunking rocks? Ever have a filthy muslim feed and give your platoon water because the military supply system doesn't work? Ever run into Iraqi's in other countries ie.. Jordan who beg you not to hurt them because they are terrified of you because of our Desert Storm and various post Desert Storm operations?
Just a few experiences you can't get by watching the state controlled media.
You never been out of the US, never fired full auto in a soft cover, never fast roped or swam onto an unfriendly beach, dude go pick up trash on your post detail, listen to Greenwood, keep lying to yourself, and above all "Stay Guard!" you deserve that bunch. Or you could grow up and go to selection and deploy so you can see what I'm talking about.
I bet you got Army t-shirts, key chains, pow bracelets the Army wallet ect.. Hooah geer! WTF is Hooah anyway? Sounds like a bellar you'd hear comming from a prison shower.
OoraH! HooYah! Pretty corny too, but envoke testosterone rather than estrogen when howelled.
Have fun on post detail and be sure to watch one of the 3 state media outlets. Anyone else wanna buy tickets to this?

Whitey wrote:WW1- We got involved in that when our 1st Communist President Woody Wilson decided to make the world safe for Democracy(Socialism).

Point of information, Mr Chairman: the US did everything it could to stay out of WWI.
It was only when German U-boats began sinking US shipping in 1917 did the US reluctantly get involved.

Yeah well the Lucy was breaking our nutrality pledge and woody was complicit. Why was he shipping supplies to a waring party when congress had said we wouldn't?
It was a calculated move for our greedy leaders to get in on the spoils of war, an of a small cost since you and the french wore the gernans down and all we had to do was come in for the big win. Question is why is the US since WW1 right at the center of every conflict in the world or involved in some way? Opprotunity is my guess. You don't see Sweden or Sudan (gotta get diverse) rushing to every corner of the planet.

Whitey, you are a crazy bastard. I said I was never deployed over seas. I have been to S. America the Caribean and Europe for long periods of time. I know what other peoples opinions are of our country. Some hate us and some love us. That's just the way it is. PS, there's nothing wrong with police call or guard duty.

US Army eating brautwurst in Manheim ain't shite. What were you doing in South America? JTF_________? Opinions of what people think of us? Wasn't what I was getting at. I was getting at how we hear one side at home of the issues in the middle east. Those dirty muslims sure feed and gave water to this lost white devil and pointed me and my squad in the right direction. Remeber during the War when we had a Marine platoon get wiped out? The rags burried them according to christian rights, no mutalation, nothing. My point is those folks aren't exactly savages, that our issues with them are directly linked with our lop sided support for Izzies.
Post detail, wow Americas highest paid trashmen. Pick up trash to uphold the Constitution.

Whitey wrote:Question is why is the US since WW1 right at the center of every conflict in the world or involved in some way?

Comes with the territory of being the biggest world power. To quote Ricky Gervais "I come from England, we used to run the world before you guys".

Whitey wrote: I was getting at how we hear one side at home of the issues in the middle east.

I know that. And it's too bad. But unfortunately, it's just the way it is.

The Isreali/Palastinian conflict is a mess. I think the Jews and the Arabs deserve each other.