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Posted: Tue 20 Mar, 2007 8:49 pm
by mfat_man
Cliodna wrote:Chrispegg,
you are 15...DO NOT even attempt to put bulking agents into your system.
You are still growing so do not mess about with your body.

Keep the phys going.
Do sets of press ups to help. Start with something like 3 sets of 15, rest for say 30 secs, then do 3 sets of say 10, rest, then 3 sets of 5.
or
do 30 press ups in the morning when you get up, 30 at some stage during the day and then 30 before bed and gradually build up the amount of press ups you do each time.

While you are still building up the amount of pressups you can do, I would stick with the second option for a bit.

You DO NOT need to be a big bulky muscle bosun to be a Bootneck.
I do wish you guys would get that thought out of your head.
Spot on Clionda.

It's more about endurance than bulking up like some kind of body builder.

Running and circuits are the best way to go - use the search button and take a read.

Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 1:03 pm
by carfraec
Í am trying to bulk up a bit at the moment, as i have mroe time before i can go into the royal marines. If you do, i would make sure you keep spot on with all round fitness aswell, not just upper body strength.

Thats what i;ve been told and i'm trying to make a regime for myself at the moment. Bodyweight excersizes are pretty key as i'm sure you've been told :) If you do decide to bulk up, start with them, then progress.
People have been saying that bulking up is not going to help you, but for me i find it's all about maintaining the balance.

Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 4:43 pm
by batess01
^Charles is rite.

However, i would say if you access to weights/gym(if you are prepared to pay money for it) then utilise them.

If its mass you are trying to PUT ON.

YOU NEED TO:

A) INCREASE CALORIE INTAKE TO BEYONG WHAT YOU EXPEND EACH DAY!

B) LIFT HEAVY.


a) if you normaly eat around 2000 calories to maintain your weight, eat 2600-3600.

b) if you can get to the gym, lift weights (go to technical failure - last rep of good form).

if you cant get to a gym, it is possible to use things like bricks/sandbags/ropes/water weights/cement bags/salt bags. ive used those in the past. along with things like handstand pressups etc (try keeping in the 5-12 rep range)

Regards,
Seb

Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 6:20 pm
by chrispegg
cheers guys for the response ill stay of the protien, ye i wiegh 73kg so i think that is ok :-? ill start training and ill write back in june n let u guys know how its going
cheers for the advicee

Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 6:35 pm
by Spence
chrispegg wrote: ill stay of the protien,
So you are going to become a vegetarian? That's probably not the best route to take whilst training.

Posted: Thu 22 Mar, 2007 7:18 pm
by marinewannabe
chris how tall are you ? because 73 kgs is what 11 and a bit stone ??? if your under about 5ft 11 then you dont need to be doing any bulking your a good weight for your height , i was under the impression you were struggling to make the 60kg .Dunno if you replied before matey but where abouts in york are you from ?

Posted: Sun 25 Mar, 2007 8:31 pm
by chrispegg
no i ment protein supplemts not totaly stop taking protien lol and im form huntington wanna organsise some training? and im 6ft 1

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2007 3:09 pm
by chrispegg
hi guys just done my first 3 miler today :D it was much harder than the 1.5 mile one obviously but i did it in 17.40 is that a good time or a bit slow for the marines??

cheers guys

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2007 3:27 pm
by hazholmes
Blimey.

Are you sure it was 3 miles?

Either your calculations are wrong, or you did it in some bloody fast time. That's less than 6 mins a mile! :-?

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2007 4:17 pm
by chris_
Iles wrote:
bird wrote:Also ever considered joining a boxing gym to do some circuit training?
You can build up great core fitness and strength, and you can just do the circuit training if you don't fancy the ringwork, sparing ect.

Just a thought why not look into it? You might love it.

Cheers, Bird
That is definately the way to go. I do circuit training sessions at my gym and I'm a rugby player, but i kickbox in the off-season and it its by far some of the hardest phys I have ever done.
It's also a great craic especially if you like getting stuck into the sparring and all the contact work.
I recommend it to everyone to at least try.

Matt :D

EDIT: Silly speling :wink:
i second (third?) this idea. i box once a week and do commando krav maga twice a week.

both of these have me pretty knackered by the end (boxing esp.), and really a little knowledge of this sort of stuff cant go a miss.

i think boxing sort of taught me to act instinctivly, regardless of whats happeneing. everybody whos done boxing will know if you concentrate on how much your hurting, or how much bigger the other guy is, you will probably fall apart and get battered. learning to zone out is a useful skill in some situations i think (i imagine bottom field would be less of a hang out if you just switched off and did as they said as opposed to thinking "f@#k me this hurts" every two minutes)

also, regarding protein supplements, theres nothing wrong with them if they are just protein.
artists point is true, that eating will give you pretty much the same effect. however, not everybody can do that. personally i seriously struggle with weight gain. im temp. unfit as im about 2 pounds under weight.

the problem is that i can function pretty well on practicly no food. im just one of these people who can stay awake all night and do a normal day and such. everybody says "eat more, and your body will adapt" but i can say after several months of stuff my face as often as possible, the end result is i either practicly start wretching when eating tea because im still full, and plain and simple cant eat anything else.
if i were to attempt to try and get an extra 50gm of protein a day into my diet, i would have to cut out another important area, or something, because i cannot physically eat that level of food.
supplements allowed me to concentrate the bit i wanted so i could still managed a balanced meal plan.

so if you can get your protien another (cheaper) way do it, but remember a supplement will probably better for you with a balanced diet, then a natural diet, where you have to cut down on other areas like carbs and vits, to make it work

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2007 5:29 pm
by chrispegg
hi yeh im sure it was 3 miles ma dad measured in his car lol
will u let me know if
40 press ups
70 sit ups
5 pull ups and oviously the 3 miler would b at a good enough standard to start my application??
cheers dudes

ps: i did all the exersizes after my 3 mile run is that what i should b doing??

Posted: Wed 04 Apr, 2007 6:35 pm
by _chris
chrispegg wrote:hi yeh im sure it was 3 miles ma dad measured in his car lol
Other people have found those to be incorrect later, use www.mapmyrun.com to double check. Bloody could time though should be pleased with that.

Posted: Sun 08 Apr, 2007 3:35 pm
by ADDiction
Chris you are a hard gainer, but not that hard. Obviously if you begin stuffing your face you are going to have serious problems keeping it down. Your body needs to adapt, start off as slow as you like, but don't believe you will never gain because that is just not true.

Ultimately, if your confident in your ability and have progressed well through your training, gaining weight is unnecessary.

Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 2:03 pm
by GGHT
batess01 wrote:
Felias wrote:Mate, don't do much weights. If any! Concentrate on getting all round fitness. Strong trunk, strong arms and chest. legs aswell.
"dont do much weights because it will stop you getting all round fitness. Strong trunk, strong arms and chest. legs"

:o


:roll:


So basically do weights. :lol:
Nope. Just shitloads of pressups and ab exercises. Circuit training basically.

Posted: Tue 10 Apr, 2007 8:36 pm
by maritime_marine
Dont mean to change topic. But ive started to do a circuit 3 times a week, but if i do any press ups the next day i get some serious pain in my tricep. It was only one set as soon as i woke up, so nothing serious. Do you think its okay to only do press ups 3 times a week?