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isnt he on about the rules for MMA in the cage/ring as apposed to what to do in a pub if some one gets lairy? because they are 2 diff things if its in a pub bung your fence up try to defuse the situation and if that doesnt work pre empt it and palm heel the f&&er in to oblivion (remeber the 4 d's distance ; discussion; deception then destruction and just hit mega hard with good acuracy and keep on doing so until threat is eliminated
if its for the sport then....

AMATEUR FIGHT RULES
Techniques allowed:

All punches to the body from standing and on the ground
All kicks to the legs and body from standing
All kicks to the legs of a grounded opponent from standing
All kicks to the legs of a standing opponent from the ground
All knees to the body and legs on the ground
All elbow strikes to the legs on the ground
All strikes with the back of the elbow to the body on the ground
All throws and takedowns (except illegal)
All submissions (except illegal)
Techniques banned:

No strikes to the head or throat
No strikes to the neck or spine
No groin strikes
No strikes to the elbow joints or knees
No elbow strikes using the point of the elbow
No head butting...No eye gouging...No fish hooking...No biting
No grabbing the throat
No hand contact with the face (smothering)
No small joint attacks ie fingers/toe locks
No heel hooks
No suplex throws...No spine locks
No throws that aim your opponents head at the ground
No neck cranks
No grabbing your opponents gloves or shorts

SEMI-PRO FIGHT RULES
Techniques allowed:

All punches to the head and body from standing position.
All punches to the body and the legs while on the ground.
Open hand strikes to the head allowed on grounded opponent.
All kicks to the head, legs and body from standing position.
All kicks to the legs of a standing opponent from the ground.
All knees to the body and legs on the ground.
All elbow strikes to the legs on the ground.
All strikes with the back of the elbow to the body on the ground.
All throws and takedowns (except illegal).
All submissions (except illegal).
Techniques banned:

No knees to the head standing
No punches to the head on the ground (no ground and pound)
No strikes to the head of a grounded opponent (on his knees)
No kicks or knees to the head on the ground
No elbow strikes using the point of the elbow
No strikes to the neck or spine
No groin strikes
No strikes to the elbow or knee joints
No head butting...No eye gouging...No fish hooking...No biting
No grabbing the throat
No hand contact with the face (smothering)
No small joint attacks ie fingers / toe locks
No suplex throws..No spine locks
No throws that aim your opponents head at the ground
No neck cranks
No grabbing your opponents gloves or shorts
PROFESSIONAL FIGHT RULES
Techniques allowed:

All punches to the head and body from standing.
All punches to the head legs and body while on the ground.
All kicks to the head legs and body from standing position.
All kicks to the legs from standing to a grounded opponent.
All kicks to legs from the ground to a standing opponent.
All knees to the strikes to head, body and legs from standing position.
All knees to the body and legs on the ground.
All elbow strikes to the head body and legs from any position.
All throws and takedowns (except as listed below).
All submissions (except as listed below).
Professional fighters may use the elbow to strike the opponents head in any position, but this must be a proper elbow strike. It must not be a spiking elbow, i.e. using the point of the elbow to drive into the opponents face or head.
Techniques banned:

No kicks to the head of a grounded opponent.
No groin strikes.
No eye gouging.
No head butts.
No strikes to the neck or spine.
No neck cranks which twist the spine.
No strikes to the elbow or knee joints.
No full suplex throws.
No biting.
No fish hooking.
No hair pulling.
No throws that aim your opponents head at the ground

hope that helps

also forgot to add your not allowed to stick your fingers up any body orifice ie the anus (which really makes them cower unless there that way inclined) but then again that may come under fish hooks sooooooooooooooooo

oh and an other your not allowed to rub your hair into there face either which is a good thing to do if you find yourself in upright grappling in the pub or even if you are on the ground this is one of roycie gracies fav's as it disoriantates the opponent and alow's you entry to go for harnesses or chokes and even arm/leg bars

i stand corrected i dont fight myself so have just a basic understanding of the rules

with rules varying at each venue does that not make it difficult for the fighters? i would imagine so if for example say you used a move that was allowed at one venue but banned at another it must mean you have to think quick when an opener comes up as to whether its allowed or not

as sandy said the rules vary from venue to venue its not like a one set of rules and one circuit like boxing with pride the rules are any take down is fine same applies to submission including chokes hitting to the head allowed expet with elbows elbows to the body allowed ohl yeah and if on the ground you must be trying to do something or the ref will bring you to your feet and issue a yellow card intrestingly more and more fighters i see are ussing more of the bjj wrestling ect boxing is fairly rare and takedowns seem to be the prefrence except with most fans but they are watching the wrong sport and should watch kickboxing may thai ect
should also point out tho pride is based in japan and dose have western fighters but they love there fighting over there so the rules tend to be a little more relaxed to allow the fight to flow

Dantae - PM me

Baz

Grappling is a sport and should never be practiced in the streets. Even the basic stance is impractical, as soon as you drop your head you get a kick to it, no matter how well honed your blocks are.

street fights tend to consist of lots of windmilling and uncoordinated punching or the good old fashiond blind sideing
a trained fighter may (if he is able to control his adrenaline) close down the range and attack his target with well aimed and powerfull strikes (always a good idea to go in to any situation with a battle plan)
martial arts wont teach you to be a good street fighter only experiance of adrenial reaction and therefore the ability to control and dominate the situation will save you/leave you standing
and this can only be achieved by putting yourself in stressfull situations and learning to overcome(or accept) your fight or flight response and realise that it is there to help you
as a side note it is usualy the adrenal response that leads most people to fly in to an uncoordinated attack wasting energy needlessly punching mindlessly at thin air they mistake it for fear and panic
get used to taking hits while moving forward (spar with no set drill) and dont think "oh shit here we go" if you find yourself in a fight instead think "HERE WE f@#k GO" and visulise knocking your attackers head clean off then go into it with every grain of your being in most steet fights i have seen it tends to be the person who has the most to lose that fights the harder the will to win no matter what is more important than how many hours you have put in at the dojo

well thats my belief anyway

You want to tell me I now nothing about street fights
Martial arts combined with experience of streetfighting = accomplished streetfighter. You think I throw my arms about in a wild fashion, well you havn't seen me fight have you. Basics of combat, never throw half hearted strikes that you can only hope will connect. Martial arts does not cure you of adrenaline dumps, only many full on encounters will help you there.

Priceless

sloth wrote:street fights tend to consist of lots of windmilling and uncoordinated punching or the good old fashiond blind sideing

well thats my belief anyway

Never been in a crowded Bar when the shit hits the fan then? Try windmilling in a crowded bar......Your going to get dropped in one second flat. Normally by the bloke who's drink you've just knocked onto the deck who is stood behind you.

First rule is: Drop em and stop em.

Second rule is: Leg it ASAP!

I myself have a black belt in Origami. You should see my paper swans!

Artist

believe away sloth by the way what is windmilling once some one has told me can some one lock this thread it has completely gone off topic

DANTAE wrote:what is windmilling

Usually referring to unskilled strikes in a fight. i.e arms flailing in big round circles, hence the windmill.

DANTAE wrote:can some one lock this thread it has completely gone off topic

Not a bad idea mate.