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Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 7:29 pm
by euro_andrew
my god sounds like a real bad day for you guys.

Hopefully I dont have the same bad luck next month.

- Andy

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 7:34 pm
by Pvt Doughnut
Ive had better days LOL.

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 7:38 pm
by euro_andrew
did any of you get any scores done on gym test 1?

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 7:40 pm
by lodgi
Digitalfreefall, what was your 3 mile road time before you went down?

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 7:41 pm
by Pvt Doughnut
yeh, my scores for gym test 1 were....

bleep test: L10
Push ups: 36
Sit ups: 61
Pull ups: 4

My Scores that I was consistantly working at before I got ill were...

bleep test: L11.1
Push ups: 55
Sit ups: 85 - 90
Pull ups: 7

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 8:40 pm
by euro_andrew
what did the PTI's say to you when you withdrawed?

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 8:45 pm
by Pvt Doughnut
Not a whole lot really, they were in a rush to get to bottom field with the course and the next train was on its way soon so they wanted to get me and another lad sorted. Basically I was asked why I was withdrawing and how long I personally thought Id need to get myself sorted. He listed off a number of months "6,5,4,3?' and as 3 was the lowest he went too I went with that.
possibly could have got one sooner but at that moment I thought id take what i was being offered if you get me? gonna have a word with the AFCO about it all and see what his feelings on it are.

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 9:42 pm
by fubar84
My 10 pence on treadmills - Some people find them easier, some find them harder than road running. Science of the matter is running on a treadmill at 0% incline (ie flat) requires roughly 80% less effort than your average road run.

To simulate road running on a treadmill it must be set to at least a 3% incline.

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 11:51 pm
by rgj-rifleman
Agree with James, treadmill are good souce for training, professional maraphon runners use them so why cant we, i always stick on a 2% incline to give it more shape though, so its a constant uphill struggle, i completed the 3 miler as hard as it was, but all from treadmill running, and i was always in the middle and front of the group on the bottomfield sprints, so got to disagree with the comment made there.

Dougnut tough break man, but im glad you gave it your best shot, and i know that toncilitis knocks you for 6 so very well done on giving it a bash, and with your 19 minute time you are already fit enough i can tell you that now as im nowhere near that time, i had a 20:30 personal best before i went down there so im 100% with you that the toncilitis messed that up for you, get them out asap and get on the next prmc mate.

Digital dont let this get you down, keep it up and dont give this up, you want it bad enough get back in there with the training, anyone can do it with the right determination and proper training, and im more than confident that you can to.

good luck mate.

RGJ-Rifleman

Posted: Thu 18 Jan, 2007 11:55 pm
by rgj-rifleman
and its 2% fuber :wink: have many books that say the 2% is the way to go if your looking to match road running. I find 80% less effort a bit hard to get my head round to be honest. Where did you get all this information from?

The books i get this information out of are Maraphon running books and triathlon books


RGJ-Rifleman

Posted: Fri 19 Jan, 2007 12:12 am
by Paulc83
i have been given my prmc date. 13th march
How come the 3 miler is so hard then, if you can do it on the road at home whats the difference at ctcrm? its done in trainers isnt it?

Posted: Fri 19 Jan, 2007 12:25 am
by eddie_2006
digitalfreefall were you given the choice like pvtdouhnut or did they just say you can have another go in 6 months time and that was it?

thanks

Posted: Fri 19 Jan, 2007 9:38 am
by _chris
Are you certain thats 80% less effort used on treadmills or just 80% of the effort used on the roads is used on treadmill. I find from what I've always been told the later much easier to get my head round, 20% less effort would seem about right to me.

Posted: Fri 19 Jan, 2007 10:25 am
by JCAP3
_chris wrote:Are you certain thats 80% less effort used on treadmills or just 80% of the effort used on the roads is used on treadmill. I find from what I've always been told the later much easier to get my head round, 20% less effort would seem about right to me.
Fubar might of exaggerated that a wee bit. Treadmills are shite compared to good-ol' running on the roads but 80% less effort is too far. Like you said, 20% less is more on the mark.

I'v been running on treadmills alot but on 1% incline - i used to think i was superman being able to do the 3 miler in 17:30 with 0% incline but it shows you that it is "fake fitness". Thats not all i do though. For example i would immediately jump on a bike and ride best effort for 20 minutes and then find a hill and run up and down it for 15 minutes.

If you only run on treadmills you are asking for it. Treadmills don't condition your legs so watch out.

Posted: Fri 19 Jan, 2007 10:36 am
by LostandFound
I think as long as you are making progress on your fitness and times etc then use what works for you. Personally, I hate treadmills and just can't stick with them so I do all my running on the road, but I've also read stories on here of lads who only ever trained on treadmills and then went to PRMC and passed. As said above, put a slight incline on to give you a proper beasting, but I think the true measure of your present abilities can only be judged out on the road so just keep measuring your progress and youll be reet.