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Posted: Wed 02 Jun, 2004 12:31 pm
by goreD.
RobT wrote:Sad to say it but alot of kids know more about the battles in Lord of the Rings than the Second world war....there the same thing aren't they?

Rob
They are indeed my friend. Numerous parallels can be made between the two. It was definately one war which was generally good against evil. Before anyone starts yes we did have some evil leaders/people on our side
i.e. Mr Stalin and friends.
Posted: Wed 02 Jun, 2004 12:36 pm
by Peds
I remember a long number of years ago when we were visiting friends in Germany, and their kids (English born and fluant) didn't know that there had ever been a war between Germany and Britain, because they didnt teach it there...
Bizarre...
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Posted: Wed 02 Jun, 2004 3:43 pm
by s a s h a
It really is bloody sad.....
Posted: Wed 02 Jun, 2004 10:54 pm
by Jason The Argonaut
chrisfow wrote:I'm not actually sure if I have every been taught about D-Day at school, and I go to a decent grammar school too (ho hum!). I only know what I do from reading and finding out about it off my own back. At GCSE you do WWII in some detail, but at a political level, not at a mechanical level. At A level, it doesn't feature at all, although after two years solid of WWII politics that is a nice break (and I am doing both Politics and History A level!).
Well I have had the opposite, the one major memory I have from primary school is I and a few others made a model of the Battle Ship Bismarck. We did loads of history from Vikings, Henery 8th, WWI, WWII. This was due to the fact I had one teacher who loved history. And his interested in history, plus my father's interest really got me into history.
And once I got into secondary school the learning continued.
chrisfow wrote:I'm just glad that the TV channels are taking it so seriously, maybe some of those ignorant idiots will actually learn something with wall to wall coverage. Let's hope so, eh?
I mean you can learn allot about history from watching the History Channel. I've learned allot of information on the USA's fight in the pacific, plus many other events throughout out history.
And like you said chrisfow finding stuff it off my own back is a good way to learn.
But it is a shame that many younger people know little or anything about WWII...

Posted: Wed 02 Jun, 2004 11:01 pm
by chrisfow
Primary school was where I learnt about alot of the basics of WWII. It is the only time I have ever been told the dates of D-Day and VE Day in school, and never ever forgot them. I don't really mind tbh, I love reading bout it for myself and I am going on to do War Studies BA at King's College London anyway so I can do it then. However, it would be much better for everyone else if they were taught about the sacrifises made for them, rather than just people who are seriously interested finding out for themselves.
Posted: Wed 02 Jun, 2004 11:31 pm
by Jagd
Kids not knowing it is one thing, but considering most of the people in that survey were over 18, it is incredible, i genuinely find it difficult to believe. I find it hard to believe it was a fair test, they must of intentionally trawled the streets looking for the stupidest individuls they could find, or possibly did the survey in a particularly stupid part of the country. Also, several of the 'shamed' individuals whose answers were quoted were students- how can somebody whose occupation is supposed to be learning be so ignorant?
Posted: Thu 03 Jun, 2004 1:14 pm
by Mince
What does D-Day stand for? VE and VJ, straightforward enough; but's what's the D? I was laughing at the idiots in the Mirror article when I suddenly realised I don't know either.
Posted: Thu 03 Jun, 2004 1:27 pm
by Peds
Im sure i heard somewhere that it stands for "day"... so it would be "day day", with the literal meaning "THE day".
same with H-hour... "hour hour".
Posted: Thu 03 Jun, 2004 1:29 pm
by Peds
just found this:
What does the 'D' in D-Day stand for?
The short answer: nothing.
In military terms, D-Day and H-Hour are sometimes used for the day and hour on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. They are used when the day and hour have not yet been determined, or when secrecy is important.
When used in combination with plus or minus signs, these terms indicate the length of time preceding or following a specific action. Thus, H-3 means 3 hours before H-Hour, and D+3 means 3 days after D-Day. H+75 minutes means H-Hour plus 1 hour and 15 minutes.
D-Day for the invasion of Normandy was set for June 6, 1944, and that date has been popularly referred to by the short title "D-Day."
Posted: Thu 03 Jun, 2004 1:51 pm
by jclark20000
Thought this was the most relavant area to post this. This link is a German soilder who fought in ww2 saying how D - day should be forgotten about.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3712245.stm
Posted: Fri 04 Jun, 2004 12:20 am
by Peds
I was taught hardly anything interesting in history by my teachers, all of my useful stuff is seld-taught or from my dad, who is a complete authority on WW2
kids need to be encouraged to learn on their own accord, not just in history but across the board - find a subject that interests them and actually find out about it, instead of sitting around in shopping centres with their trousers tucked into their socks.
Posted: Fri 04 Jun, 2004 8:17 am
by got1
Never mind the kids not knowing about D Day. We have a first minister in Scotland [Jack McConnel] who is going to a golf dinner instead of attending the anniversary parade. Makes me sick and ashamed.
Posted: Fri 04 Jun, 2004 2:26 pm
by jclark20000
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/
Good website for all those youngsters and elders wanting to learn a bit more about D-day and hear the stories off those that were there.
Posted: Fri 04 Jun, 2004 6:30 pm
by got1
[quote="got1"]Never mind the kids not knowing about D Day. We have a first minister in Scotland (Jack McConnel) who is going to a golf dinner instead of attending the anniversary parade. Makes me sick and ashamed.[/quote]
He's done a U turn BIG F£$KING Deal.
I hope the old guys tell him what they think of him.