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Cool, I understand the stretch now.

I am seeing a physio already, half an hour about every 2 to 3 weeks. I do not know what muscle massager you refer to, but having tried to "knead" some of the tighter muscles myself I did find that they are all very painful.
Actually I would say both knees hurt, left has caught up with the right.
Ironically I developed this problem (or at least brought the existing problem to a head) after months of road running to get fit enough to pass the army fitness tests.
I will do these stretches about twice a day, I was told to do specific outer thigh stretches but I find those very innefectual and awkward to do. The one given relies on me having use of the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! table and using nothing more than my inner thigh to pull across and stretch the outer thigh.
Since you seem so sure that these glute stretches alone can do a lot I will try my best.
Thankyou for your replies, your effort and thought.

DETRITUS.

detritus, dont you think you'd be somewhat alienating yourself from the blokes your working with if you go home every night?? just a query.

DETRITUS wrote:Cool, I understand the stretch now.

I am seeing a physio already, half an hour about every 2 to 3 weeks. I do not know what muscle massager you refer to, but having tried to "knead" some of the tighter muscles myself I did find that they are all very painful.
Actually I would say both knees hurt, left has caught up with the right.
Ironically I developed this problem (or at least brought the existing problem to a head) after months of road running to get fit enough to pass the army fitness tests.
I will do these stretches about twice a day, I was told to do specific outer thigh stretches but I find those very innefectual and awkward to do. The one given relies on me having use of the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! table and using nothing more than my inner thigh to pull across and stretch the outer thigh.
Since you seem so sure that these glute stretches alone can do a lot I will try my best.
Thankyou for your replies, your effort and thought.

DETRITUS.

I'd listen to your physio over me and do both Sometimes to start with when muscles are very tight you won't actually feel much stretch, but it will be working slowly. I was skeptical about the benefits of stretching to help injured muscles, but after a year of doing it & learning about the theory behind it, I can both understand how it works and feel that it does work in practice.

Wee Willy Winkie wrote:detritus, dont you think you'd be somewhat alienating yourself from the blokes your working with if you go home every night?? just a query.

Possibly, possibly not. I guess I just want to know if the option for a regular soldier to go rent a place privatley or through army itself or whatever is a possible one.
I have no major problems with sharing living space, but I just like to know that IF I needed to I could take a step back and get some space, so to speak.
Like if I was in a living quarters that had smokers I would not like it- I am allergic to cigarrette smoke and the slightest odour of it makes me sick. I can handle it outside but not indoors near me. A lot of my family smoke/d and when I was living under the same roof it was terrible.
This then makes me really angry. My neighbours above me smoke on the balcony a few feet away from me, drop cigarette butts by the dozen and drop their ash onto my yard sofa and pavement. The stench gets into my home everywhere but doesn`t get out quickly- For some reason this makes me really rageful. I have done my best to keep my cool with people like this because I don`t want a criminal record messing up my chances for enlistment.
I could not live with or around smokers, I can handle people who I might not get on with during work but to be around them 24/7 would be very trying.

I am just looking at worst case scenario, if worst comes to worst I would like the piece of mind that I could "escape" after work "home".
I usually get on with most people, even ones who piss me off. I get mad but I am quite diplomatic and I don`t tend to hold grudges. (I could be real mad with someone and have an argument with them and then 5 minutes later I would be over it and back to normal.)

When I was a teenager I would be everyday, every moment with my friends- even though we`d piss each other off often and such. Then I went through some bad times where I was alone a lot and desperatley bored and lonely. Sometimes weeks would pass and I wouldn`t see or speak to another human being. For the longest time now I have spent most of my time alone, and mostly I have hated it.

One of my strongest reasons to try and appeal against the rejection and enlist IS to become part of a team, a family of sorts, the good, the bad and the ugly. Not just like any other work team, but one that I can rely on with my life, and one that I would fight and die for...and endure hours of trudgery and boring tedious tasks..

You see ideally I would live in, thats what I want. But to go from living on my own, in my own place for years to moving out and having to lose my home and starting a whole new life is scary.
I wish I had done this when I was 17 or something- when there was still a family home to go back to. Having moved out and having my own place makes it that bit harder. Since it wasn`t easy to get my own place at all, and I was in a way lucky that it is what and where it is. Its got many problems, but it is MUCH nicer than anything else I would have got.

I guess I am just one of those people who feels teh need to look at worst case scenario- and find out what the options woud be in such a case. Once I have that assurance I am happy enough to go back, put it in the back of my mind and get on with it just like everybody else. Do you see?
Like I said, it is not easy or possible even to understand what someone is about from a few posts on an internet forum. Plus I am rapidly approaching the upper age limit.

I want IN the military brotherhood. So to speak.

DETRITUS.

It seems a bit odd that you want to rent some where away from the Barracks, well I suppose if you are going in a some form of cook or clerk then you might get away with it. We were always on a 24 hour stand bye, which meant they would give you a maximum of 24 hours to pack your kit and board the the transport for some far flung corner of the world. Do you think they are going to run around the country looking for you just to tell you to get packed, or wait on your doorstep for you to decide to come home. When you are in camp where is your kit going to be kept. at home or in flat, for if your NCO decides to to take over the Assault after you have been on parade just how are you going to get changed or will you ask him to wait while you go home to change. Now do you expect the soldiers or people in the Barracks to support you in the field when you appear to be to good to share their lives in the Barracks. You may be better of becoming a Scout Leader or some thing like that.

Oh I`m sorry do you know me or something?
I especially liked the patronising condescending tone.
I`m glad you took the time to read all of my responses thus far and are not simply assuming that I would definitly live off-site. No doubt you are the best and most qualified soldier in the British military.

I am a full grown man, quite able to deal with your sneering attitude,
if you have nothing worth while saying I shall simply ignore you.

DETRITUS.

I think you just 'bit' mate..

I thought everything apart from the Scout Leader part made a lot of sense.

Brian- wrote:
I thought everything apart from the Scout Leader part made a lot of sense.

Scout Leaders get their own tent.
Makes perfect sense to me

Detritus,Before you start insulting people,Try reading their profiles.
Your coming across as a full grown arrogant twat.
If you don't like the answers,Don't ask the question

DETRITUS.......The comments I made where not sneering, but based on experience, living with the other soldiers in Barracks help you bond and make friends, and it is these friendships that can save your life. When the lads from the Barracks go out for drink do you think that they will include you in this, as many of these happen on the spur the moment, IF you are living else where then you just become the odd ball and not a real part of the team, you don't share their lives the good and the bad. Married Men going home to the Mrs is one thing but some one that does not mix as they would see it as some thing else

Ok, look.
Wholley how and where do I come across as arrogant? Re-read my posts and tell me where I am arrogant, arrogant means something that I am not. You know very little about me. Did you know that I spent most of my life unable to express myself clearly? I am still struggling. I am so hungry to learn you wouldn`t believe it.
As for arrogance.. I have grown up feeling like a 3rd class person, feeling everyone better than me, a deep inferiority complex which I still have, and it hurts me in many ways. Please, don`t mistake aggression for arrogance. I may not be worth as much as others, but I am not submissive in the slightest.

I wont name call or break the rules here, but I absolutley will stick up for myself.

I admit I am impressed, and believe it or not but I do respect. However, I will not just take what I feel are insults.

Tab, Ok, but the reason I responded in such a way is that I feel like my desire to be a soldier is not being believed, as if I am some silly soft fool who has no idea of human psychology and group survival, and that I am being told "there there, run along now" as if I am not tough enough.
This frustrates and maddens me. I respect you and I want you to respect me!
I don`t CARE if I never live in private accomodations, infact I would PREFER to live as everyone else as a unit. It`s like every damn question I ask somehow turns into a way to talk down to me as though I cannot hack it.

I do though, understand your points now better than before and I accept them. I like that- straight forward answers. If it is essential to live in Barracks then so be it. I shall do so.

I AM here to learn though, so I will take in any constructive critisism and I will think hard about it all. But please, don`t make it seem like I am just too useless to tough it out or cope. I am a tenacious person. If you have something to say that you think I have missed then say it and I will pay attention.


Ok, as I said what I am aiming for is Army Air Corps, I like the idea of working in a group as a unit (incase any of you missed it the foremost reason I want to enlist is to become part of a strong group.) I also am interested in the different things that would be taught and the different roles. Ideally working my way up to doorgunner or crewchief. I think my eyesight is not quite good enough to get that far though.. let alone pilot.. (I wish). How awesome would that be? Pilot in the British army.
I think that it might mean going to Iraq or Afghanistan, that I would do I believe without hesitation.


Thankyou.


DETRITUS.

DETRITUS wrote:Ok, look.
Wholley how and where do I come across as arrogant?

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