Raw Eggs

[jammin87]

calcium caseinate is pretty expensive too isn't it? Last time I bought whey protein powder it was on the shelf below I think, still for a pretty heavy price.
When you treat protein to higher temperatures, you denature it I'm pretty sure, hence there being less protein after you cook eggs. If anyone knows better, good work, just what I think i can remember from A levels, and not that important to the topic.

[taimos]

Bodybuilders have been drinking raw eggs for years. In bulking phases (off-season) some consume like 10 every morning.

I'd say just get some decent WHEY protein though. I use Optimum nutrition gold standard and it's awesome. It has every amino acid and ltos of BCAAs, 24g of protein per scoop (120kcals).

Casein is best for before bed and early morning because it is slow acting, which means it takes time. Whey is fast which is why it is best for post-workout nutrition.

Oh but be careful what supplements you use because many have hidden trans fats in them/ lots of sugar/carbs.

[AJtothemax]

Raw egg's are ok to drink, just take the yoke out and drink the white because the yoke has all the cholesterol in it - you dont want that.

It's estimated that 1 in every 1000 raw eggs has salmonella i believe, i've never tried raw egg's just through fear of getting it, ive had food poisoning once from eating uncooked food and im very keen on avoiding it again - its horrible!

As far as protien is concerned - if you were down at CTCRM and you wanted to take supplements ID STRONGLY SUGGEST taking a protien supplement with LOTS of carbo and calories in it. The reason being, you are going to need it for the energy otherwise they wouldnt add them in some supplement drinks.

If you want to avoid the extra calories though, just to to WHEY protien. Great for muscle repair but there are different grads of whey protien that you can buy, some are actually better than others simply because of their complexity on how fast they travel into your bloodstream and to the muscle.

The fastest one i know of and have taken is called 'Nectar'. This is best quality whey protien out there and i challenge anyone THROUGH EXPERIENCE to name something better than it that isn't roids. Its the best because its the fastest at getting into the blood stream. When i was bulking up and putting on the power for rugby i trained in a body building gym for the specific reason of learning as much as i could and training as hard as i could to beef up in size relevent to my position on the rugby field. Never touched gear in my life and never will but ive trained for two years and seen, researched and heard enough to know what im talking about. Im not an 'expert' nor am i claiming to be, just what i know through experience thats all.

I know however that i could be quite, borderline - very big for my height if i wanted to be, i have the genetics for it but i have no interest in being MASSIVE so i choose not to.

Theres not much science to getting bigger, or loosing weight or even getting fitter. If you do the required amount of whats expected of you, then you will become whatever you set out to be!

[CODE]

I have done it a few times, didnt really taste bad, just wack a bit of milk with it. I suppose the reason their meant to be raw is so you dont lose the nutrirnts in them, A guy in the gym suggested putting a small hole in the bottom of the egg and sucking it straight out of that ?!? I didn't really want to try it but if anyone could tell me why you would do this? I thought maybe it was like if you drink alcohol through a straw it hits your system quicker? Anyway, I'd recommend a good whey protein for straight after training and a decent cassein protein for before bed or as a meal replacement, sack off the eggs if you can get salmonella.

[Spence]

AJ, I'm not sure how you are trying to compare protein supplements with AAS, they are completely different.

As for the estimated one in a thousand eggs...did you read my comment on the FSAs study completed in 2004?

[JCAP3]

I tried a few glasses of that Progain with water. Most digusting thing i'v ever tasted

I stick to the same blend as you Spence, I just add the apples etc for the Vit C.

[LostandFound]

I think unless you are training to be an olympic champion then its not worth risking eating raw eggs when you can just bung them in the microwave for a minute to be sure - the difference in nutritional value must be pretty minimal so I think you will see the benefits regardless. And certainly with all these dodgy french eggs on the shelves at the minute

[AJtothemax]

AJ, I'm not sure how you are trying to compare protein supplements with AAS, they are completely different.

As for the estimated one in a thousand eggs...did you read my comment on the FSAs study completed in 2004?

No sorry spence i just scoured over some without reading alot. To be honest that was pretty naieve of me, but my parents as far as im aware have always bought eggs with the lion mark on them. So, in your find - only get ones with the lion mark stamped onto them and you should be fine!

No i wasn't comparing them against roids mate, i was simply suggesting that i challenge anyone to find a better quality protien than the one i have suggested because some whey's have been found to have anabolic traces in them etc. Theres way to much detail to go into and to be honest i know i could debate this with you for ages but i really can't be bothered

It was just simply something i put out there which, believe it or not should be benificial because if someone found a better quality one than Nectar then at least everyone knows about it ey!

Also

I think unless you are training to be an olympic champion then its not worth risking eating raw eggs

Thats entirely untrue. Im not saying that you are, but too many people instantly assume that when you start supplementing like these that you are going to add too much bulk - this again is not true.

If you balance things correctly, just like anything in life really - you will be fine!

[jammin87]

CODE - I'd imagine that guy said about sucking it through a small hole in the egg just to save on making a mess, and so you avoid the yoke, simple as.
Also, Spence - If you meant Amino Acids by AAs, then they're directly related to protein. The more essential Amino Acids a whey protein supplement contains, the better as your body doesn't synthesise them. Different foods contain varying amounts of each amino acid, and the same is true of different whey protein blends.

[Spence]

Yeah fair play AJ, just trying to bust your balls a bit

Jammin87, the acronym AAS refers to Anabolic/Androgenic Steroids (sometimes seen as AS) or roids, juice or gear. However good call on the amino acid make up of different protein blends, and the fact that the body deos not synthasise them.

Spence

[Polynikes]

Alright boys and girls? Try this:

Throw two raw eggs, a banana, half a pint of milk and honey to taste in to a jug; then blend the hell out of it. Fantastic drink.

The banana replaces glycogen lost during training, the eggs provide protein and the honey is a quick burst of energy... Although the drink itself provides tonnes of energy. Good for before and / or after training.

Eggs are best eaten raw (as to my understanding) since cooking damages the fragile proteins etc. They are up there as one of the most nutritious foods around, since the yolk is everything a few chicken cells need to grow in to a chick... it's a growing food, powerful sh!t and they're pretty cheap. Oh, and the egg apparently is only as healthy as the chicken that produced it, so stay away from crappy ones.

That's about it for me... Don't want to turn this in to an essay.

Take care lads.
Polynikes

[LostandFound]

Also

I think unless you are training to be an olympic champion then its not worth risking eating raw eggs

Thats entirely untrue. Im not saying that you are, but too many people instantly assume that when you start supplementing like these that you are going to add too much bulk - this again is not true.

If you balance things correctly, just like anything in life really - you will be fine!

No mate, didn't mean it in terms of bulking up too much. I just meant that getting proteins from cooked eggs would be sufficient for nutrient-purposes for someone training to be in the forces, and that unless you are seeking microscopic gains in performance (as in an olympic athlete) then you wouldn't see any difference whether eating raw eggs or cooked.

No Beef AJ mate, just thought I would clarify what I meant

[Ollie_69]

I drink 2 eggs, a pint of milk and a slug of brandy mixed together after a rugby match, really nice!