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RAF Lossiemouth to close

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RAF Lossiemouth is potentially facing closure due to defence cuts. Should the Tornado base be kept open?

It was the base from which the Dambusters launched their successful raid of the Tirpitz, Bismarck's sister ship

There's an article on its historic significance here:

http://www.military-times.co.uk/article ... losure.htm
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Why is there an outcry every time they close a base in Scotland, bases have closed all over England and not a word is heard. I was trying to think of any of the BoB RAF Stations in the South East that are still open anbd I can't think of one that still remains.
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Why keep Lossie open when Marham is the Main operating base for Tornado?

Marham has the Engineering infrastructure for all Tornado works, it has the Simulators and the OCU is ran there.

Lossie and its residents just don't like the thought of the Army being moved there when they finish in Germany.


Tab, the only "Operational" BoB station still in service is probably Middle Wallop, although now its the home of the Army Air Corps (and its still a grass strip).
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Your Information is factually Incorrect. RAF Lossiemouth is home to the Tornado GR4 OCU not Marham, Lossiemouth has it's own Tornado GR4 depth maintenance facility and is currently carrying out all Aircraft Preparartions for Aircraft deploying on operations. The maintenance facility at Marham is ran by British Aerospace and carrys out Minor and major maintenance. RAF Lossiemouth is a vital cog in the grand scheme of things and without it Air Operations in support of Coalition forces in Afghanistan and also the current Operations over Libya would cease..... If you are going to post information about RAF Lossiemouth closing please make sure you have your facts correct..........................
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Airframe Doctor wrote:Your Information is factually Incorrect. RAF Lossiemouth is home to the Tornado GR4 OCU not Marham, Lossiemouth has it's own Tornado GR4 depth maintenance facility and is currently carrying out all Aircraft Preparartions for Aircraft deploying on operations. The maintenance facility at Marham is ran by British Aerospace and carrys out Minor and major maintenance. RAF Lossiemouth is a vital cog in the grand scheme of things and without it Air Operations in support of Coalition forces in Afghanistan and also the current Operations over Libya would cease..... If you are going to post information about RAF Lossiemouth closing please make sure you have your facts correct..........................
To be fair ... Marham Squadrons are currently working 12 hour shifts 7 days to support operations over Libya, not Lossie. 31 Sqn who deploy to KAF in 2 weeks are covering support for Libya. The Depth maintenance for Tornado is at Marham, of course there is still maintenance at Lossie. The Tornado Techical Training is based at Marham, once a technician has been on GR4's for an amount of time they go on a course to specialise in GR4's after this course they become GR4 speicialists not just light or heavy technicians.

A lot of infrastructure surrounding GR4's is at Marham, however this should not be the only consideration when looking at closing a Station. How closing the Station would affect the local economy and future and current military strategy will of course have a part to play. 51 Sqn RAF Regiment is at Lossie, where as Marham has an flight of regiment personnel to do pre-deployment GDT for other trades.

There are massive amounts of information to consider, if people are ging to publish "facts" they should be facts, and if you are going to chastise another forum member for posting untrue "facts" please ensure your facts are true.
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Thanks wannabe, the info I got was off a Tonka mate. Thought he'd be right.. :D
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wannabe_rock wrote:
Airframe Doctor wrote:Your Information is factually Incorrect. RAF Lossiemouth is home to the Tornado GR4 OCU not Marham, Lossiemouth has it's own Tornado GR4 depth maintenance facility and is currently carrying out all Aircraft Preparartions for Aircraft deploying on operations. The maintenance facility at Marham is ran by British Aerospace and carrys out Minor and major maintenance. RAF Lossiemouth is a vital cog in the grand scheme of things and without it Air Operations in support of Coalition forces in Afghanistan and also the current Operations over Libya would cease..... If you are going to post information about RAF Lossiemouth closing please make sure you have your facts correct..........................
To be fair ... Marham Squadrons are currently working 12 hour shifts 7 days to support operations over Libya, not Lossie. 31 Sqn who deploy to KAF in 2 weeks are covering support for Libya. The Depth maintenance for Tornado is at Marham, of course there is still maintenance at Lossie. The Tornado Techical Training is based at Marham, once a technician has been on GR4's for an amount of time they go on a course to specialise in GR4's after this course they become GR4 speicialists not just light or heavy technicians.

A lot of infrastructure surrounding GR4's is at Marham, however this should not be the only consideration when looking at closing a Station. How closing the Station would affect the local economy and future and current military strategy will of course have a part to play. 51 Sqn RAF Regiment is at Lossie, where as Marham has an flight of regiment personnel to do pre-deployment GDT for other trades.

There are massive amounts of information to consider, if people are ging to publish "facts" they should be facts, and if you are going to chastise another forum member for posting untrue "facts" please ensure your facts are true.
We are currently working our arses off in support of Operations in Libya and Afghanistan all of the aircraft operating in Libya were OOA Prepped for dispatch By Lossiemouth Sqns, 12 Aircraft in a 48 hour period (Fact). My Sqn is due to deploy to Afghanistan to take over from 31 Sqn Later this year (As Marham Sqn's will be sunning themselves in 5* hotels). We got back from our last tour at the end of April 2011 this will be my 3rd tour of KAF in 14 months including two xmas's on the bounce, theses are testing times for every member of the military and to be honest how they can even consider any more cut backs whilst fighting two conflicts is beyond me. Cameron Quoted in the News today "let them do the fighting and i will do the talking" after Air Marshall Bryant critsised the goverment for causing extreme Operational Fatigue and low morale........... i wish he would listen to the Chiefs of Staff...this is not about Lossiemouth against Marham both stations are working extremely hard to support these operations but the is only so much people can take before the wings fall off. And you do not have to be on GR4 for a certain amount of time before you go on a "Q" course, you get one allocated to you on arrival at your place of work at Marham or Lossiemouth and as for going on to become GR4 specialists that is an impossibility. I have worked on Tornado for 15 years and although very knowledeable i am no specialist. The Idiosyncracies of this complex and very capable operating platform never fail to fox even the most knowledgeable technicians, as the aircraft ages faults become harder to trace thus making specialists a very rare commodity.
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Thanks wannabe
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i ain't happy that they were/have closed RAF st leucas if i were to go into the RAF i wanted to go there as it is where my grandfather worked as an amourer for 111 squadron especially with the lightning and phantom FGR.2 never mind though it is sorrowful however it will always be in my heart
Fallen angels at my feet
Whispered voices at my ear
Death before my eyes
Lying next to me, i fear
She beckons me, shall i give in?
Upon my end, shall it begin?
Forsaking all i've fallen for
I rise to meet the end
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